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@  KHALED : (10:39 PM)

i thought i recognised her

@  Swampy : (07:30 PM)

That was yo girl ?

@  Android XVII : (09:38 PM)

@ KHALED : (02:48 AM) Oft 2.0 is just a weird concept to me. If you want to talk to people from Oft then just come to the site

@  KHALED : (10:52 AM)

What is this thread http://oddfuturetalk...ight-now/page-2

@  KHALED : (10:50 AM)

Plus I assumed that Pope would be in the chat and he's trash

@  KHALED : (10:49 AM)

I'd have joined it when georgey asked just out of curiosity but there's only a couple people on here who have my number and I don't want to give it out that easy.

@  KHALED : (10:48 AM)

Oft 2.0 is just a weird concept to me. If you want to talk to people from Oft then just come to the site

@  PaulMurphy : (09:18 PM)

I dont listen to BH at all now but glad they blew up

@  PaulMurphy : (09:18 PM)

I remember spidey inked me to kevin in 2015 it was so cool

@  PaulMurphy : (09:17 PM)

jesus fuckin christ the L the franklin took jst hit me

@  PaulMurphy : (09:15 PM)

@ KHALED : (08:01 AM) wasn't Turt's real name Franklin Mendez? ye i had him on facebook

@  PaulMurphy : (09:14 PM)

oft 2.0 is too sacred to get to in public

@  PaulMurphy : (09:14 PM)

no one has taken a bigger L than turk lets agree

@  PaulMurphy : (09:13 PM)

@KHALED shut up cutie

@  KHALED : (09:23 PM)

his kink is humiliation

@  KHALED : (09:23 PM)

@Jakes Dad he prefers to be referred to as pooch

@  Android XVII : (08:51 AM)

:tony: :tony: :tony: :tony:

@  Jakes Dad : (02:15 AM)

why'd i say pooch instead of tony

@  KHALED : (12:02 AM)

on god

@  KHALED : (12:02 AM)

@ Fuck Flog Gnaw : (06:59 AM) Edit icon if georgy want these digits he gotta take me out first

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (08:59 PM)

if georgy want these digits he gotta take me out first

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (08:42 PM)

but I do remember kassper fuck son, I'm slacking niggas out here making their dreams come true and shit

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (08:41 PM)

nah i dont remember turt

@  gnatu w : (10:53 PM)

good luck comrade

@  KHALED : (08:55 PM)

gotta give georgey your phone number

@  Gnatuw : (04:07 PM)

just dl'd whatsapp how do i get to oft 2

@  Gnatuw : (03:57 PM)

i remember he was a bit of a shit at times iirc

@  Gnatuw : (03:57 PM)

icytwat is dope so thats cool af kassper was always motivated when it came to those beats

@  Gnatuw : (03:57 PM)

damn always knew there had to be ppl from here who blew up

@  Android XVII : (07:33 AM)

wtf kassper is icytwat????? twist ending!!! dope as fuck

@  Jakes Dad : (02:41 AM)

can you let me know if pooch ever gets that signal app please

@  Jakes Dad : (02:40 AM)

that is 100% confirmed

@  KHALED : (11:20 PM)

and i heard troy was exclusively producing for imani now

@  Jakes Dad : (11:06 PM)

he in that divine council group they have a song with 3k

@  Jakes Dad : (11:02 PM)

yeah and kassperdahmer is producer called ICYTWAT now

@  Android XVII : (09:39 AM)

khaled goat investigation

@  Android XVII : (09:39 AM)

legendary

@  KHALED : (08:09 AM)

so that confirms he was in brockhampton

@  KHALED : (08:09 AM)

yep, http://www.postsubur...franklin-mendez

@  KHALED : (08:06 AM)

https://www.reddit.com/r/brockhampton/comments/7mi7nx/brockhampton_ktt_names/

@  KHALED : (08:02 AM)

hahhaahha https://www.reddit.c...klin_mendez_on/

@  KHALED : (08:01 AM)

wonder why they kicked him out

@  KHALED : (08:01 AM)

rip turt for missing out on that

@  KHALED : (08:01 AM)

holy fuck

@  KHALED : (08:01 AM)

wasn't Turt's real name Franklin Mendez?

@  KHALED : (08:00 AM)

"In January 2015, Brockhampton released their debut single, "Bet I" accompanied by a video directed by members Henock "HK" Sileshi and Franklin Mendez"

@  KHALED : (08:00 AM)

i cracked the code, tell BJ I'm the goat

@  KHALED : (08:00 AM)

because I remember Turt repping some shit called ASF and he had it as his name in 2013

@  KHALED : (07:59 AM)

In 2013, AliveSinceForever released their debut EP album, The ASF EP.[15] The lineup consisted of Abstract, Vann, Dom McLennon, and Mic Kurb (later known as Rodney Tenor). At the end of 2014, AliveSinceForever disbanded to rebrand as Brockhampton.[16][17]

@  KHALED : (07:59 AM)

haha shit yes Brockhamptons first ever release was titled ASF

@  KHALED : (07:56 AM)

were they abbreviated to ASF?

@  KHALED : (07:55 AM)

if that cripple and georgey and them didn't delete so many profiles id check turts profile because i remember he had it listed there at one point

@  KHALED : (07:51 AM)

lol is this georgeys lame ass WhatsApp? @ PaulMurphy : (02:50 PM) Edit icon anyone not in oft 2 yet?

@  KHALED : (07:51 AM)

fuck what was it named

@  KHALED : (07:51 AM)

holy shit, that collective thing

@  KHALED : (07:51 AM)

@Android XVII i fucking remember that

@  ASTOREA2K : (11:41 PM)

thomas told me bout this the other day

@  Android XVII : (11:09 PM)

i think the old name was "something" collective but im prolly wrong

@  Android XVII : (11:08 PM)

yeah straight up nobody remembers turt was in brockhampton but me and blvck we gotta find the proof

@  ASTOREA2K : (04:42 PM)

i thik it was him atleast

@  ASTOREA2K : (04:42 PM)

thomas has albino on fb

@  chrisb : (10:52 AM)

oh damn r u serious? i remember turt lmao

@  Android XVII : (06:34 AM)

if you remember an old member named turt from here he was in brockhampton when they had a different name they kicked him out right before they blew up

@  Android XVII : (06:33 AM)

you kno what i dont remember brock hampton ever posting here but mfs said kevin abstract either posted here or ktt

@  Android XVII : (06:31 AM)

wtf is oft2

@  Android XVII : (06:29 AM)

albino last fm was active in november :iiam: :iiam:

@  PaulMurphy : (04:50 AM)

anyone not in oft 2 yet?

@  PaulMurphy : (02:11 AM)

:frank:

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (09:25 PM)

Damn how did albino die?

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (09:25 PM)

Brockhampton used to hit up vanity house? Is the thread still up?

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (09:24 PM)

that nigga was average as fucl

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (09:24 PM)

Lol Ant Live

@  ASTOREA2K : (02:50 PM)

@Android XVII yeah albino died like 2-3 months ago i think

@  ASTOREA2K : (02:50 PM)

happy new year men

@  Android XVII : (09:14 PM)

happy new year niggas we finna takeover the culture as always

@  Android XVII : (04:10 AM)

get some facetats

@  Android XVII : (04:10 AM)

chrisb become friends with post malone tell him to put you on

@  Android XVII : (04:09 AM)

fuck ant live he unfollowed me on twitter so im right here with you

@  gnatu w : (03:46 AM)

+1

@  chrisb : (02:28 AM)

anyway happy new year to everyone except except ant live cus he was mean to me 5 years ago

@  chrisb : (02:26 AM)

lol i know a girl who dating post malone

@  tylersgay : (08:25 PM)

i wish spidey would chat as well

@  tylersgay : (08:25 PM)

the real Gnatuw hasn't been in the sb for a while :'(

@  tylersgay : (08:24 PM)

yeah respect to Khaled for helping keep the community alive

@  Android XVII : (08:14 PM)

for reals i fuck with yall

@  tylersgay : (01:17 PM)

happy new year oft

@  Android XVII : (09:31 PM)

aye didn't y'all say albinoafrican died? how long ago was that

@  Android XVII : (09:17 PM)

bishop nehru and niggas from brock hampton used to post in vanity house

@  Android XVII : (09:16 PM)

vanity house fam

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (06:07 PM)

Or all those lame ass niggas in the Vanity House who thoughts they were gonna pop soon off bad music. It's been years now, aint seen one dude off the VH popping

@  Fuck Flog Gnaw : (06:06 PM)

Whatever happened to Material. I used to hate that nigga

@  tylersgay : (02:09 PM)

i miss 133 i hope hes ok

@  Android XVII : (02:08 AM)

liar

@  gnatu w : (01:40 AM)

133

@  Android XVII : (01:15 AM)

who's the cripple

@  KHALED : (07:49 AM)

cant afford food but can afford the best washing detergent

@  KHALED : (07:49 AM)

bro howd they gets their clothes so bright in the hood

@  KHALED : (07:49 AM)

IM IN THIS VIDEO https://www.youtube....h?v=DRJJQNE_nzc

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YOU CAN TALK HOT ON THE INTERNET, BOY THAT'S THAT GOOFY SHIT, WE AIN'T INTO THAT, BOY

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What do you think is Tyler's best song thus far & why?


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:46 AM

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I'd have to go with VCR
Each line has meaning, everything makes sense the whole way through, & it's like a love note but with a twisted spin to it,
Beat reminds me of 90s Keith Sweat in his prime, it's just an amazing track all around

Fuck wheels, though. Idk who told him that song was sick. The beat is everywhere & his voice sounds weird
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:52 AM

I don't have an opinion about it.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:54 AM

I don't have an opinion about it.


Well fuck you then Metal Dan
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:56 AM

Fuck Tammy & I don't know just like the song, verses go hard af even if they're odd and random.
Plus Hals remix beat is one of my favourites.
I'm the only one probably.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:57 AM

the song that got me into OF, Bastard.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:58 AM

production wise tho it goes to Drunk..goat beat evur
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:02 AM

Well fuck you then Metal Dan

I shall. But later.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:04 AM

I have no definite favorite but I love Wheels 2 (Better than the first imo) , Splatter, Assmilk ,Orange Juice, VCR, And Bastard
Bimmer has potentional to be one of my faves
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

production wise tho it goes to Drunk..goat beat evur

You're gay.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:48 AM

jack and the beanstalk...




but really probably analog 2
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:49 AM

You're gay.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:50 AM

I wanna say "Back for another One" but... thats technically Casey Veggies song.. but tyler features in it so ill say that would be my favorite.
Otherwise, my favorite tyler song, that only he made would be Parade, but thats MY favorite.
But i think his BEST song would be Bastard, it has a really good story line, tells a lot, and is quiet real.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:53 AM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

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HAHAHAHAHHA YOURE SO CLEVER HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH DAMN YOURE LIKE A FOX HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I BET YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THE TURTLE BEATING THE HARE HAHAHAHAHAH YOURE LIKE THE TURTLE IN THIS SITUATION CUZ THE JOKE IS ON ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHA





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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

Oh if we talking his production as well..

A close second favorite beat wise would be his beat for The Life Like.. Was that a sample or what? That shit was amazing, wish it was better quality

The beat just dreamily drags on its a dope ass loop

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:59 AM

HAHAHAHAHHA YOURE SO CLEVER HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH DAMN YOURE LIKE A FOX HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I BET YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THE TURTLE BEATING THE HARE HAHAHAHAHAH YOURE LIKE THE TURTLE IN THIS SITUATION CUZ THE JOKE IS ON ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHA





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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:27 AM

Steak Sauce. The "best" is arguable but this is my personal favorite and I think it's his best
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:28 AM

You're gay.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:31 AM

info on gay

Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual.
The term was originally used to refer to feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy". The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.[1] In modern English, "gay" has come to be used as an adjective, and as a noun, referring to the people, especially to males, and the practices and cultures associated with homosexuality.
By the end of the 20th century, the word "gay" was recommended by major LGBT groups and style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex.[2][3] At about the same time, a new, pejorative use became prevalent in some parts of the world. In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use, the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. This usage can also refer to weakness or unmanliness. When used in this way, the extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated and harshly criticized.
The word gay arrived in English during the 12th century from Old French gai, most likely deriving ultimately from a Germanic source.[1] For most of its life in English, the word's primary meaning was "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy", and the word was very commonly used with this meaning in speech and literature. For example, the optimistic 1890s are still often referred to as the Gay Nineties. The title of the 1938 French ballet Gaîté Parisienne ("Parisian Gaiety"), which became the 1941 Warner Brothers movie, The Gay Parisian,[7] also illustrates this connotation. It was apparently not until the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically "homosexual", although it had earlier acquired sexual connotations.[1]
The derived abstract noun gaiety remains largely free of sexual connotations, and has, in the past, been used in the names of places of entertainment; for example W.B. Yeats heard Oscar Wilde lecture at the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin.[8]
It had also come to acquire some connotations of "immorality" in the 1600s.
The word had started to acquire associations of immorality by 1637[1] and was used in the late 17th century with the meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations."[9] This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints." A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer and a gay house a brothel.[1]
The use of gay to mean "homosexual" was in origin merely an extension of the word's sexualised connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage is documented as early as the 1920s, and there is evidence for it before the 20th century,[1] although it was initially more commonly used to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles, as in the once-common phrase "gay Lothario",[10] or in the title of the book and film The Gay Falcon (1941), which concerns a womanizing detective whose first name is "Gay." Similarly, Gilbert and MacDermott's music hall song of the 1880s, "Charlie Dilke Upset the Milk" - "Master Dilke upset the milk/When taking it home to Chelsea;/ The papers say that Charlie's gay/Rather a wilful wag!" - referred to Sir Charles Dilke's alleged heterosexual impropriety.[11] Well into the mid 20th century a middle-aged bachelor could be described as "gay", indicating that he was unattached and therefore free, without any implication of homosexuality. This usage could apply to women too. The British comic strip Jane was first published in the 1930s and described the adventures of Jane Gay. Far from implying homosexuality, it referred to her free-wheeling lifestyle with plenty of boyfriends (while also punning on Lady Jane Grey).
A passage from Gertrude Stein's Miss Furr & Miss Skeene (1922) is possibly the first traceable published use of the word to refer to a homosexual relationship. According to Linda Wagner-Martin (Favored Strangers: Gertrude Stein and her Family (1995)) the portrait, "featured the sly repetition of the word gay, used with sexual intent for one of the first times in linguistic history," and Edmund Wilson (1951, quoted by James Mellow in Charmed Circle (1974)) agreed.[12]
Bringing Up Baby (1938) was the first film to use the word gay in apparent reference to homosexuality. In a scene in which the Cary Grant character's clothes have been sent to the cleaners, he is forced to wear a woman’s feather-trimmed robe. When another character asks about his robe, he responds, "Because I just went gay all of a sudden!" Since this was a mainstream film at a time when the use of the word to refer to homosexuality would still be unfamiliar to most film-goers, the line can also be interpreted to mean "I just decided to do something frivolous."[13]
The word continued to be used with the dominant meaning of "carefree", as evidenced by the title of The Gay Divorcee (1934), a musical film about a heterosexual couple.
Shift to homosexual

By the mid-20th century, gay was well established in reference to hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles[14] and its antonym straight, which had long had connotations of seriousness, respectability, and conventionality, had now acquired specific connotations of heterosexuality.[15] In the case of gay, other connotations of frivolousness and showiness in dress ("gay apparel") led to association with camp and effeminacy. This association no doubt helped the gradual narrowing in scope of the term towards its current dominant meaning, which was at first confined to subcultures. Gay was the preferred term since other terms, such as queer, were felt to be derogatory.[16] Homosexual is perceived as excessively clinical,[17][18][19][20] since the sexual orientation now commonly referred to as "homosexuality" was at that time a mental illness diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
In mid-20th century Britain, where male homosexuality was illegal until the Sexual Offences Act 1967, to openly identify someone as homosexual was considered very offensive and an accusation of serious criminal activity. Additionally, none of the words describing any aspect of homosexuality were considered suitable for polite society. Consequently, a number of euphemisms were used to hint at suspected homosexuality. Examples include "sporty" girls and "artistic" boys,[21] all with the stress deliberately on the otherwise completely innocent adjective.
The sixties marked the transition in the predominant meaning of the word gay from that of "carefree" to the current "homosexual". By 1963, a new sense of the word gay was known well enough to be used by Albert Ellis in his book The Intelligent Woman's Guide to Man-Hunting. Similarly, Hubert Selby, Jr. in his 1964 novel Last Exit to Brooklyn, could write "[he] took pride in being a homosexual by feeling intellectually and esthetically superior to those (especially women) who weren't gay..."[22] Later examples of the original meaning of the word being used in popular culture include the theme song to the 1960–1966 animated TV series The Flintstones, whereby viewers are assured that they will "have a gay old time." Similarly, the 1966 Herman's Hermits song "No Milk Today", which became a Top 10 hit in the UK and a Top 40 hit in the U.S. and included the lyric "No milk today, it was not always so / The company was gay, we'd turn night into day."[23] In June 1967, the headline of the review of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album in the British daily newspaper The Times stated, "The Beatles revive hopes of progress in pop music with their gay new LP".[24] Yet in the same year, The Kinks recorded "David Watts".[25] Ostensibly about schoolboy envy, the song also operated as an in-joke, as related in Jon Savage's "The Kinks: The Official Biography", because the song took its name from a homosexual promoter they'd encountered who'd had romantic designs on songwriter Ray Davies' teenage brother; and the lines "he is so gay and fancy free" attest to the ambiguity of the word's meaning at that time, with the second meaning evident only for those in the know.[26] As late as 1970, the first episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show has the demonstrably straight Mary Richards' downstairs neighbor, Phyllis, breezily declaiming that Mary is, at age 30, still "young and gay."
There is little doubt that the homosexual sense is a development of the word's traditional meaning, as described above. It has nevertheless been claimed that gay stands for "Good As You", but there is no evidence for this: it is a folk etymology backronym.
The American Psychological Association states that sexual orientation "describes the pattern of sexual attraction, behavior and identity e.g. homosexual (aka gay, lesbian), bisexual and heterosexual (aka straight)". It says, "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles."[28]
According to Rosario, Schrimshaw, Hunter, Braun (2006), "the development of a lesbian, gay, or bisexual (LGB) sexual identity is a complex and often difficult process. Unlike members of other minority groups (e.g., ethnic and racial minorities), most LGB individuals are not raised in a community of similar others from whom they learn about their identity and who reinforce and support that identity. Rather, LGB individuals are often raised in communities that are either ignorant of or openly hostile toward homosexuality."[29]
The British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell has argued that the term gay is merely a cultural expression which reflects the current status of homosexuality within a given society, and claiming that "Queer, gay, homosexual ... in the long view, they are all just temporary identities. One day, we will not need them at all."[30]
If a person engages in same-sex sexual encounters but does not self-identify as gay, terms such as 'closeted', 'discreet', or 'bi-curious' may be applied. Conversely, a person may identify as gay without engaging in homosexual sex. Possible choices include identifying as gay socially while choosing to be celibate or while anticipating a first homosexual experience. Further, a bisexual person can also identify as "gay" but others might consider gay and bisexual to be mutually exclusive. There are some who are drawn to the same-sex, and may not have sex, and also not identify as gay; these could have the term 'asexual' applied, even though an 'asexual' generally can mean no attraction, and includes heterosexual attraction that is not sufficient to engage in sex, or where the sex act is not desirable, even though titillation may occur.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual.
The term was originally used to refer to feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy". The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.[1] In modern English, "gay" has come to be used as an adjective, and as a noun, referring to the people, especially to males, and the practices and cultures associated with homosexuality.
By the end of the 20th century, the word "gay" was recommended by major LGBT groups and style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex.[2][3] At about the same time, a new, pejorative use became prevalent in some parts of the world. In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use, the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. This usage can also refer to weakness or unmanliness. When used in this way, the extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated and harshly criticized.
The word gay arrived in English during the 12th century from Old French gai, most likely deriving ultimately from a Germanic source.[1] For most of its life in English, the word's primary meaning was "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy", and the word was very commonly used with this meaning in speech and literature. For example, the optimistic 1890s are still often referred to as the Gay Nineties. The title of the 1938 French ballet Gaîté Parisienne ("Parisian Gaiety"), which became the 1941 Warner Brothers movie, The Gay Parisian,[7] also illustrates this connotation. It was apparently not until the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically "homosexual", although it had earlier acquired sexual connotations.[1]
The derived abstract noun gaiety remains largely free of sexual connotations, and has, in the past, been used in the names of places of entertainment; for example W.B. Yeats heard Oscar Wilde lecture at the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin.[8]
It had also come to acquire some connotations of "immorality" in the 1600s.
The word had started to acquire associations of immorality by 1637[1] and was used in the late 17th century with the meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations."[9] This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints." A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer and a gay house a brothel.[1]
The use of gay to mean "homosexual" was in origin merely an extension of the word's sexualised connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage is documented as early as the 1920s, and there is evidence for it before the 20th century,[1] although it was initially more commonly used to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles, as in the once-common phrase "gay Lothario",[10] or in the title of the book and film The Gay Falcon (1941), which concerns a womanizing detective whose first name is "Gay." Similarly, Gilbert and MacDermott's music hall song of the 1880s, "Charlie Dilke Upset the Milk" - "Master Dilke upset the milk/When taking it home to Chelsea;/ The papers say that Charlie's gay/Rather a wilful wag!" - referred to Sir Charles Dilke's alleged heterosexual impropriety.[11] Well into the mid 20th century a middle-aged bachelor could be described as "gay", indicating that he was unattached and therefore free, without any implication of homosexuality. This usage could apply to women too. The British comic strip Jane was first published in the 1930s and described the adventures of Jane Gay. Far from implying homosexuality, it referred to her free-wheeling lifestyle with plenty of boyfriends (while also punning on Lady Jane Grey).
A passage from Gertrude Stein's Miss Furr & Miss Skeene (1922) is possibly the first traceable published use of the word to refer to a homosexual relationship. According to Linda Wagner-Martin (Favored Strangers: Gertrude Stein and her Family (1995)) the portrait, "featured the sly repetition of the word gay, used with sexual intent for one of the first times in linguistic history," and Edmund Wilson (1951, quoted by James Mellow in Charmed Circle (1974)) agreed.[12]
Bringing Up Baby (1938) was the first film to use the word gay in apparent reference to homosexuality. In a scene in which the Cary Grant character's clothes have been sent to the cleaners, he is forced to wear a woman’s feather-trimmed robe. When another character asks about his robe, he responds, "Because I just went gay all of a sudden!" Since this was a mainstream film at a time when the use of the word to refer to homosexuality would still be unfamiliar to most film-goers, the line can also be interpreted to mean "I just decided to do something frivolous."[13]
The word continued to be used with the dominant meaning of "carefree", as evidenced by the title of The Gay Divorcee (1934), a musical film about a heterosexual couple.
Shift to homosexual

By the mid-20th century, gay was well established in reference to hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles[14] and its antonym straight, which had long had connotations of seriousness, respectability, and conventionality, had now acquired specific connotations of heterosexuality.[15] In the case of gay, other connotations of frivolousness and showiness in dress ("gay apparel") led to association with camp and effeminacy. This association no doubt helped the gradual narrowing in scope of the term towards its current dominant meaning, which was at first confined to subcultures. Gay was the preferred term since other terms, such as queer, were felt to be derogatory.[16] Homosexual is perceived as excessively clinical,[17][18][19][20] since the sexual orientation now commonly referred to as "homosexuality" was at that time a mental illness diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
In mid-20th century Britain, where male homosexuality was illegal until the Sexual Offences Act 1967, to openly identify someone as homosexual was considered very offensive and an accusation of serious criminal activity. Additionally, none of the words describing any aspect of homosexuality were considered suitable for polite society. Consequently, a number of euphemisms were used to hint at suspected homosexuality. Examples include "sporty" girls and "artistic" boys,[21] all with the stress deliberately on the otherwise completely innocent adjective.
The sixties marked the transition in the predominant meaning of the word gay from that of "carefree" to the current "homosexual". By 1963, a new sense of the word gay was known well enough to be used by Albert Ellis in his book The Intelligent Woman's Guide to Man-Hunting. Similarly, Hubert Selby, Jr. in his 1964 novel Last Exit to Brooklyn, could write "[he] took pride in being a homosexual by feeling intellectually and esthetically superior to those (especially women) who weren't gay..."[22] Later examples of the original meaning of the word being used in popular culture include the theme song to the 1960–1966 animated TV series The Flintstones, whereby viewers are assured that they will "have a gay old time." Similarly, the 1966 Herman's Hermits song "No Milk Today", which became a Top 10 hit in the UK and a Top 40 hit in the U.S. and included the lyric "No milk today, it was not always so / The company was gay, we'd turn night into day."[23] In June 1967, the headline of the review of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album in the British daily newspaper The Times stated, "The Beatles revive hopes of progress in pop music with their gay new LP".[24] Yet in the same year, The Kinks recorded "David Watts".[25] Ostensibly about schoolboy envy, the song also operated as an in-joke, as related in Jon Savage's "The Kinks: The Official Biography", because the song took its name from a homosexual promoter they'd encountered who'd had romantic designs on songwriter Ray Davies' teenage brother; and the lines "he is so gay and fancy free" attest to the ambiguity of the word's meaning at that time, with the second meaning evident only for those in the know.[26] As late as 1970, the first episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show has the demonstrably straight Mary Richards' downstairs neighbor, Phyllis, breezily declaiming that Mary is, at age 30, still "young and gay."
There is little doubt that the homosexual sense is a development of the word's traditional meaning, as described above. It has nevertheless been claimed that gay stands for "Good As You", but there is no evidence for this: it is a folk etymology backronym.
The American Psychological Association states that sexual orientation "describes the pattern of sexual attraction, behavior and identity e.g. homosexual (aka gay, lesbian), bisexual and heterosexual (aka straight)". It says, "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles."[28]
According to Rosario, Schrimshaw, Hunter, Braun (2006), "the development of a lesbian, gay, or bisexual (LGB) sexual identity is a complex and often difficult process. Unlike members of other minority groups (e.g., ethnic and racial minorities), most LGB individuals are not raised in a community of similar others from whom they learn about their identity and who reinforce and support that identity. Rather, LGB individuals are often raised in communities that are either ignorant of or openly hostile toward homosexuality."[29]
The British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell has argued that the term gay is merely a cultural expression which reflects the current status of homosexuality within a given society, and claiming that "Queer, gay, homosexual ... in the long view, they are all just temporary identities. One day, we will not need them at all."[30]
If a person engages in same-sex sexual encounters but does not self-identify as gay, terms such as 'closeted', 'discreet', or 'bi-curious' may be applied. Conversely, a person may identify as gay without engaging in homosexual sex. Possible choices include identifying as gay socially while choosing to be celibate or while anticipating a first homosexual experience. Further, a bisexual person can also identify as "gay" but others might consider gay and bisexual to be mutually exclusive. There are some who are drawn to the same-sex, and may not have sex, and also not identify as gay; these could have the term 'asexual' applied, even though an 'asexual' generally can mean no attraction, and includes heterosexual attraction that is not sufficient to engage in sex, or where the sex act is not desirable, even though titillation may occur.


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#21 KanyeEast

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:38 AM

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production wise tho it goes to Drunk..goat beat evur


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:49 AM

SteamRoller (for immaculate production gotdamn)/Analog 2/VCR
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:58 AM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:02 AM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:18 AM

Jamba and IFHY are great.


Fuck are those?
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

haha noone will actually list yonkers, cause you are all of fans from '10 way before the hype started. to list something from of tape 1 is just stupid, the sound is so crappy.

I like Bastard, Nightmare, Yonkers (best combination of beats, lyrics and video), Analog.
Hopefully his best is yet to come
He has a lot of other good songs too, but those are all standouts.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

Fuck are those?


They are unreleased songs, you just had your first experience of Lurkk, a guy that spends nearly 24 hours of the day looking for OF stuff, he has no friends so he dedicates his life to stupid shit like that.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

Nightmare because the lyrics and the vibe slowly get darker as the song progresses,
Blow because the beat is nice,
VCR/Wheels because the lyrics and the beat sound perfect together,
Analog II because of the summer vibe, and because ....the second half >
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Blow, Session, Orange Juice, Let's Dance, King of Assmilk Flowers, Analog
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