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@  gnatu w : (10:29 PM)

why would I do that when I could order drugs to my house instead

@  Android XVII : (08:18 AM)

it would b dope if it was a billionaire in the shoutbox

@  Android XVII : (08:17 AM)

tru how do i get logic for free without a vpn

@  chrisb : (06:57 AM)

feeling FRICKIN DEPRESSED Y'KNOW

@  chrisb : (06:21 AM)

side note: anyone wanna order drugs to my house instead of giving me money

@  chrisb : (06:21 AM)

anyone rich wanna give me $

@  gnatu w : (12:48 AM)

Use rutracker probably

@  Gnatuw : (12:14 AM)

in the meantime gonna DL this ableton trial

@  Gnatuw : (12:13 AM)

anyone wanna help me get Logic for free on this mac tho :wub:

@  Jakes Dad : (09:39 PM)

@ gnatu w : (05:33 PM) Use Logic

@  gnatu w : (04:33 AM)

Use Logic

@  Gnatuw : (03:58 AM)

I been wanting to do that shit for so long ever since I fucked around on Fruity Loops on a friends computer few yrs back

@  ASTOREA2K : (03:56 AM)

@Gnatuw prolly ableton

@  Gnatuw : (03:56 AM)

my HP dont work no more :( wanted to fuck around n make beats on that one but im left with this shit

@  Gnatuw : (03:56 AM)

laptop that is

@  Gnatuw : (03:56 AM)

what music prod program runs best on a mac

@  Gnatuw : (03:55 AM)

yo

@  Android XVII : (03:04 AM)

he doesn't have any new music right?

@  chrisb : (12:57 AM)

he got some good stuff tbh

@  chrisb : (12:56 AM)

ya i listen to his bandcamp a lot

@  Android XVII : (07:20 PM)

chrisb i remember nikko i watch that video bout once a year

@  ASTOREA2K : (03:30 AM)

if u ever decide to quit im here for u

@  ASTOREA2K : (03:30 AM)

@KHALED adam :/

@  KHALED : (01:16 AM)

everything is pretty much exact same as it was, so still trash

@  KHALED : (01:16 AM)

@ASTOREA2K still taking it daily

@  chrisb : (11:46 PM)

yall remember Nikko? https://www.youtube....h?v=hqyW12DnFPo

@  ASTOREA2K : (11:28 PM)

@KHALED how the valium thing goin

@  KHALED : (11:05 PM)

if i dont go i am fucked, really, like its one of my last shots at getting better, but my panic attacks are crazy right now and i just dont know how ill get the courage to go

@  KHALED : (11:05 PM)

this is like the only place that can probably help me though

@  KHALED : (11:04 PM)

I'm meant to go to sydney on monday for treatment for my mental health shit but i dont know if i will be able to get there, its only a 3 hours drive but my anxiety is really fucking high

@  ASTOREA2K : (09:30 PM)

@Android XVII :lol:

@  Android XVII : (09:21 PM)

fuck apple bitchass

@  Android XVII : (09:21 PM)

i got locked out of my iPad i had for like 4 years

@  Android XVII : (09:21 PM)

helllll nawww i aint payin no dam $100

@  ASTOREA2K : (09:09 PM)

@afaulks not deleted, it's just some error in the site that makes it so u cant look everything up

@  afaulks : (09:02 PM)

this is my first time on here in years, when i look at my post history most have been deleted. anyone know why?

@  Hobo : (09:14 AM)

and im srs

@  Hobo : (09:14 AM)

still need to do some guitar work for u

@  ASTOREA2K : (01:19 AM)

@Android XVII 100$ for a beat

@  Android XVII : (01:13 AM)

send me loudpack astorea

@  ASTOREA2K : (11:05 PM)

im trying to put together somethin soon

@  ASTOREA2K : (11:04 PM)

workin on beats

@  ASTOREA2K : (11:04 PM)

goin pretty well

@  ASTOREA2K : (11:04 PM)

@Hobo https://soundcloud.c...uboundu/s-9ThSC

@  Hobo : (10:16 PM)

hows ur musique going man?

@  ASTOREA2K : (12:14 PM)

@Hobo heard it v good track hobo

@  Hobo : (11:28 AM)

https://soundcloud.com/dan-pearl/november-eleven

@  Hobo : (11:28 AM)

thanks guys ur the sweetest xx

@  Hobo : (11:28 AM)

@Android XVII was nice

@  Android XVII : (01:49 AM)

might hav been 15

@  Android XVII : (01:49 AM)

happy birthday hobo i still remember when u put a guitar solo on one of my instrumentals when i was 16

@  Thomas Hunna : (11:10 PM)

We know u r

@  Thomas Hunna : (11:10 PM)

are you Hobo Johnson

@  Thomas Hunna : (11:10 PM)

Happy birthday Hobes

@  ASTOREA2K : (05:03 PM)

happy bday hobo

@  chrisb : (03:42 AM)

aint got a message since 2015

@  Jack : (10:03 PM)

i'll message you chrisb

@  Android XVII : (09:35 PM)

we gon b poverty brockhampton

@  gnatu w : (09:15 PM)

making the band: oft edition

@  Thomas Hunna : (08:30 PM)

im down lets move in together guys

@  Android XVII : (07:22 PM)

we should hav an oft headquarters in toronto or LA

@  Android XVII : (07:22 PM)

tyga is dope

@  chrisb : (02:20 PM)

miss ya, kissa ya

@  chrisb : (02:18 PM)

yall just wanna go in on a 20 bedroom apartment in panama or smthn?

@  chrisb : (02:00 PM)

i check this mailbox like once a month and i get nothin

@  chrisb : (01:59 PM)

how come no one ever sends me a private message

@  Thomas Hunna : (08:15 AM)

dont forget http://oddfuturetalk...-albums-thread/

@  Thomas Hunna : (07:48 AM)

still confused as why Tyga is on the new Vince album :earl:

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:37 AM)

holy fucking shit

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:37 AM)

7 years

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:20 AM)

I never smoked cigar cones before only raw cones, but they smoke really well

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:19 AM)

yooo zigzag cones the shit too

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:18 AM)

new Earl song dope too btw

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:17 AM)

i love you guys

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:17 AM)

im drunk and faded

@  Thomas Hunna : (06:17 AM)

happy early birthday Hobo

@  Gnatuw : (03:30 AM)

viewed my profile i mean

@  Gnatuw : (03:30 AM)

miss that fool

@  Gnatuw : (03:30 AM)

spidey viewed my post yesterday :o

@  KHALED : (08:37 AM)

i make multiple facebook statuses on my birthday just to alert everyone

@  KHALED : (08:36 AM)

@Hobo happy birthday for sunday, my life partner

@  KHALED : (08:36 AM)

its is pretty odd, actually, never thought about it outside of the terrible happy birthday song @ gnatu w : (12:22 PM) Edit icon sorry I do not say happy birthday, it is really weird thing to say i don't like it

@  KHALED : (08:35 AM)

my instagram is just adamnewbold

@  Jack : (03:20 PM)

If people ask me what it is I won't refuse to tell them but I don't tell people otherwise if it's the day of my birthday.

@  gnatu w : (02:23 PM)

i haven't shared the details of my birthday with my family even, mom always asks but i have to keep her in the dark

@  gnatu w : (02:22 PM)

have you guys heard of frank ocean?

@  Android XVII : (04:21 AM)

true telling people happy birthday is weird only my family knows my birthday i dont like people treating me different all day

@  Jack : (04:13 AM)

happy birthday

@  Hobo : (04:01 AM)

sorry to steal the show TH

@  Hobo : (04:01 AM)

it is my birthday on sunday

@  gnatu w : (02:22 AM)

sorry I do not say happy birthday, it is really weird thing to say i don't like it

@  gnatu w : (02:22 AM)

@Hobo Hi :)

@  Android XVII : (01:25 AM)

dude where's my car

@  Hobo : (12:21 AM)

dude happy birthday

@  byeeeeeeeeee : (05:12 PM)

happy birthday dude

@  Thomas Hunna : (05:01 PM)

OFT until it 404s and it prolly will

@  Thomas Hunna : (05:01 PM)

Thanks everybody, I love you guys

@  Android XVII : (06:44 AM)

happy birthday that mf thomas holding it down since day 1

@  Android XVII : (06:43 AM)

everybody put igs ima follow y'all mine @trvshgxd

@  Android XVII : (06:43 AM)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:46 AM

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I'd have to go with VCR
Each line has meaning, everything makes sense the whole way through, & it's like a love note but with a twisted spin to it,
Beat reminds me of 90s Keith Sweat in his prime, it's just an amazing track all around

Fuck wheels, though. Idk who told him that song was sick. The beat is everywhere & his voice sounds weird
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:52 AM

I don't have an opinion about it.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:54 AM

I don't have an opinion about it.


Well fuck you then Metal Dan
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:56 AM

Fuck Tammy & I don't know just like the song, verses go hard af even if they're odd and random.
Plus Hals remix beat is one of my favourites.
I'm the only one probably.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:57 AM

the song that got me into OF, Bastard.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:58 AM

production wise tho it goes to Drunk..goat beat evur
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:02 AM

Well fuck you then Metal Dan

I shall. But later.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:04 AM

I have no definite favorite but I love Wheels 2 (Better than the first imo) , Splatter, Assmilk ,Orange Juice, VCR, And Bastard
Bimmer has potentional to be one of my faves
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

production wise tho it goes to Drunk..goat beat evur

You're gay.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:48 AM

jack and the beanstalk...




but really probably analog 2
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:49 AM

You're gay.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:50 AM

I wanna say "Back for another One" but... thats technically Casey Veggies song.. but tyler features in it so ill say that would be my favorite.
Otherwise, my favorite tyler song, that only he made would be Parade, but thats MY favorite.
But i think his BEST song would be Bastard, it has a really good story line, tells a lot, and is quiet real.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:53 AM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

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HAHAHAHAHHA YOURE SO CLEVER HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH DAMN YOURE LIKE A FOX HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I BET YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THE TURTLE BEATING THE HARE HAHAHAHAHAH YOURE LIKE THE TURTLE IN THIS SITUATION CUZ THE JOKE IS ON ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHA





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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

Oh if we talking his production as well..

A close second favorite beat wise would be his beat for The Life Like.. Was that a sample or what? That shit was amazing, wish it was better quality

The beat just dreamily drags on its a dope ass loop

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:59 AM

HAHAHAHAHHA YOURE SO CLEVER HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH DAMN YOURE LIKE A FOX HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I BET YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THE TURTLE BEATING THE HARE HAHAHAHAHAH YOURE LIKE THE TURTLE IN THIS SITUATION CUZ THE JOKE IS ON ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHA





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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:27 AM

Steak Sauce. The "best" is arguable but this is my personal favorite and I think it's his best
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:28 AM

You're gay.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:31 AM

info on gay

Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual.
The term was originally used to refer to feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy". The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.[1] In modern English, "gay" has come to be used as an adjective, and as a noun, referring to the people, especially to males, and the practices and cultures associated with homosexuality.
By the end of the 20th century, the word "gay" was recommended by major LGBT groups and style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex.[2][3] At about the same time, a new, pejorative use became prevalent in some parts of the world. In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use, the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. This usage can also refer to weakness or unmanliness. When used in this way, the extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated and harshly criticized.
The word gay arrived in English during the 12th century from Old French gai, most likely deriving ultimately from a Germanic source.[1] For most of its life in English, the word's primary meaning was "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy", and the word was very commonly used with this meaning in speech and literature. For example, the optimistic 1890s are still often referred to as the Gay Nineties. The title of the 1938 French ballet Gaîté Parisienne ("Parisian Gaiety"), which became the 1941 Warner Brothers movie, The Gay Parisian,[7] also illustrates this connotation. It was apparently not until the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically "homosexual", although it had earlier acquired sexual connotations.[1]
The derived abstract noun gaiety remains largely free of sexual connotations, and has, in the past, been used in the names of places of entertainment; for example W.B. Yeats heard Oscar Wilde lecture at the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin.[8]
It had also come to acquire some connotations of "immorality" in the 1600s.
The word had started to acquire associations of immorality by 1637[1] and was used in the late 17th century with the meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations."[9] This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints." A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer and a gay house a brothel.[1]
The use of gay to mean "homosexual" was in origin merely an extension of the word's sexualised connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage is documented as early as the 1920s, and there is evidence for it before the 20th century,[1] although it was initially more commonly used to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles, as in the once-common phrase "gay Lothario",[10] or in the title of the book and film The Gay Falcon (1941), which concerns a womanizing detective whose first name is "Gay." Similarly, Gilbert and MacDermott's music hall song of the 1880s, "Charlie Dilke Upset the Milk" - "Master Dilke upset the milk/When taking it home to Chelsea;/ The papers say that Charlie's gay/Rather a wilful wag!" - referred to Sir Charles Dilke's alleged heterosexual impropriety.[11] Well into the mid 20th century a middle-aged bachelor could be described as "gay", indicating that he was unattached and therefore free, without any implication of homosexuality. This usage could apply to women too. The British comic strip Jane was first published in the 1930s and described the adventures of Jane Gay. Far from implying homosexuality, it referred to her free-wheeling lifestyle with plenty of boyfriends (while also punning on Lady Jane Grey).
A passage from Gertrude Stein's Miss Furr & Miss Skeene (1922) is possibly the first traceable published use of the word to refer to a homosexual relationship. According to Linda Wagner-Martin (Favored Strangers: Gertrude Stein and her Family (1995)) the portrait, "featured the sly repetition of the word gay, used with sexual intent for one of the first times in linguistic history," and Edmund Wilson (1951, quoted by James Mellow in Charmed Circle (1974)) agreed.[12]
Bringing Up Baby (1938) was the first film to use the word gay in apparent reference to homosexuality. In a scene in which the Cary Grant character's clothes have been sent to the cleaners, he is forced to wear a woman’s feather-trimmed robe. When another character asks about his robe, he responds, "Because I just went gay all of a sudden!" Since this was a mainstream film at a time when the use of the word to refer to homosexuality would still be unfamiliar to most film-goers, the line can also be interpreted to mean "I just decided to do something frivolous."[13]
The word continued to be used with the dominant meaning of "carefree", as evidenced by the title of The Gay Divorcee (1934), a musical film about a heterosexual couple.
Shift to homosexual

By the mid-20th century, gay was well established in reference to hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles[14] and its antonym straight, which had long had connotations of seriousness, respectability, and conventionality, had now acquired specific connotations of heterosexuality.[15] In the case of gay, other connotations of frivolousness and showiness in dress ("gay apparel") led to association with camp and effeminacy. This association no doubt helped the gradual narrowing in scope of the term towards its current dominant meaning, which was at first confined to subcultures. Gay was the preferred term since other terms, such as queer, were felt to be derogatory.[16] Homosexual is perceived as excessively clinical,[17][18][19][20] since the sexual orientation now commonly referred to as "homosexuality" was at that time a mental illness diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
In mid-20th century Britain, where male homosexuality was illegal until the Sexual Offences Act 1967, to openly identify someone as homosexual was considered very offensive and an accusation of serious criminal activity. Additionally, none of the words describing any aspect of homosexuality were considered suitable for polite society. Consequently, a number of euphemisms were used to hint at suspected homosexuality. Examples include "sporty" girls and "artistic" boys,[21] all with the stress deliberately on the otherwise completely innocent adjective.
The sixties marked the transition in the predominant meaning of the word gay from that of "carefree" to the current "homosexual". By 1963, a new sense of the word gay was known well enough to be used by Albert Ellis in his book The Intelligent Woman's Guide to Man-Hunting. Similarly, Hubert Selby, Jr. in his 1964 novel Last Exit to Brooklyn, could write "[he] took pride in being a homosexual by feeling intellectually and esthetically superior to those (especially women) who weren't gay..."[22] Later examples of the original meaning of the word being used in popular culture include the theme song to the 1960–1966 animated TV series The Flintstones, whereby viewers are assured that they will "have a gay old time." Similarly, the 1966 Herman's Hermits song "No Milk Today", which became a Top 10 hit in the UK and a Top 40 hit in the U.S. and included the lyric "No milk today, it was not always so / The company was gay, we'd turn night into day."[23] In June 1967, the headline of the review of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album in the British daily newspaper The Times stated, "The Beatles revive hopes of progress in pop music with their gay new LP".[24] Yet in the same year, The Kinks recorded "David Watts".[25] Ostensibly about schoolboy envy, the song also operated as an in-joke, as related in Jon Savage's "The Kinks: The Official Biography", because the song took its name from a homosexual promoter they'd encountered who'd had romantic designs on songwriter Ray Davies' teenage brother; and the lines "he is so gay and fancy free" attest to the ambiguity of the word's meaning at that time, with the second meaning evident only for those in the know.[26] As late as 1970, the first episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show has the demonstrably straight Mary Richards' downstairs neighbor, Phyllis, breezily declaiming that Mary is, at age 30, still "young and gay."
There is little doubt that the homosexual sense is a development of the word's traditional meaning, as described above. It has nevertheless been claimed that gay stands for "Good As You", but there is no evidence for this: it is a folk etymology backronym.
The American Psychological Association states that sexual orientation "describes the pattern of sexual attraction, behavior and identity e.g. homosexual (aka gay, lesbian), bisexual and heterosexual (aka straight)". It says, "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles."[28]
According to Rosario, Schrimshaw, Hunter, Braun (2006), "the development of a lesbian, gay, or bisexual (LGB) sexual identity is a complex and often difficult process. Unlike members of other minority groups (e.g., ethnic and racial minorities), most LGB individuals are not raised in a community of similar others from whom they learn about their identity and who reinforce and support that identity. Rather, LGB individuals are often raised in communities that are either ignorant of or openly hostile toward homosexuality."[29]
The British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell has argued that the term gay is merely a cultural expression which reflects the current status of homosexuality within a given society, and claiming that "Queer, gay, homosexual ... in the long view, they are all just temporary identities. One day, we will not need them at all."[30]
If a person engages in same-sex sexual encounters but does not self-identify as gay, terms such as 'closeted', 'discreet', or 'bi-curious' may be applied. Conversely, a person may identify as gay without engaging in homosexual sex. Possible choices include identifying as gay socially while choosing to be celibate or while anticipating a first homosexual experience. Further, a bisexual person can also identify as "gay" but others might consider gay and bisexual to be mutually exclusive. There are some who are drawn to the same-sex, and may not have sex, and also not identify as gay; these could have the term 'asexual' applied, even though an 'asexual' generally can mean no attraction, and includes heterosexual attraction that is not sufficient to engage in sex, or where the sex act is not desirable, even though titillation may occur.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual.
The term was originally used to refer to feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy". The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.[1] In modern English, "gay" has come to be used as an adjective, and as a noun, referring to the people, especially to males, and the practices and cultures associated with homosexuality.
By the end of the 20th century, the word "gay" was recommended by major LGBT groups and style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex.[2][3] At about the same time, a new, pejorative use became prevalent in some parts of the world. In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use, the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. This usage can also refer to weakness or unmanliness. When used in this way, the extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated and harshly criticized.
The word gay arrived in English during the 12th century from Old French gai, most likely deriving ultimately from a Germanic source.[1] For most of its life in English, the word's primary meaning was "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy", and the word was very commonly used with this meaning in speech and literature. For example, the optimistic 1890s are still often referred to as the Gay Nineties. The title of the 1938 French ballet Gaîté Parisienne ("Parisian Gaiety"), which became the 1941 Warner Brothers movie, The Gay Parisian,[7] also illustrates this connotation. It was apparently not until the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically "homosexual", although it had earlier acquired sexual connotations.[1]
The derived abstract noun gaiety remains largely free of sexual connotations, and has, in the past, been used in the names of places of entertainment; for example W.B. Yeats heard Oscar Wilde lecture at the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin.[8]
It had also come to acquire some connotations of "immorality" in the 1600s.
The word had started to acquire associations of immorality by 1637[1] and was used in the late 17th century with the meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations."[9] This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints." A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer and a gay house a brothel.[1]
The use of gay to mean "homosexual" was in origin merely an extension of the word's sexualised connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage is documented as early as the 1920s, and there is evidence for it before the 20th century,[1] although it was initially more commonly used to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles, as in the once-common phrase "gay Lothario",[10] or in the title of the book and film The Gay Falcon (1941), which concerns a womanizing detective whose first name is "Gay." Similarly, Gilbert and MacDermott's music hall song of the 1880s, "Charlie Dilke Upset the Milk" - "Master Dilke upset the milk/When taking it home to Chelsea;/ The papers say that Charlie's gay/Rather a wilful wag!" - referred to Sir Charles Dilke's alleged heterosexual impropriety.[11] Well into the mid 20th century a middle-aged bachelor could be described as "gay", indicating that he was unattached and therefore free, without any implication of homosexuality. This usage could apply to women too. The British comic strip Jane was first published in the 1930s and described the adventures of Jane Gay. Far from implying homosexuality, it referred to her free-wheeling lifestyle with plenty of boyfriends (while also punning on Lady Jane Grey).
A passage from Gertrude Stein's Miss Furr & Miss Skeene (1922) is possibly the first traceable published use of the word to refer to a homosexual relationship. According to Linda Wagner-Martin (Favored Strangers: Gertrude Stein and her Family (1995)) the portrait, "featured the sly repetition of the word gay, used with sexual intent for one of the first times in linguistic history," and Edmund Wilson (1951, quoted by James Mellow in Charmed Circle (1974)) agreed.[12]
Bringing Up Baby (1938) was the first film to use the word gay in apparent reference to homosexuality. In a scene in which the Cary Grant character's clothes have been sent to the cleaners, he is forced to wear a woman’s feather-trimmed robe. When another character asks about his robe, he responds, "Because I just went gay all of a sudden!" Since this was a mainstream film at a time when the use of the word to refer to homosexuality would still be unfamiliar to most film-goers, the line can also be interpreted to mean "I just decided to do something frivolous."[13]
The word continued to be used with the dominant meaning of "carefree", as evidenced by the title of The Gay Divorcee (1934), a musical film about a heterosexual couple.
Shift to homosexual

By the mid-20th century, gay was well established in reference to hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles[14] and its antonym straight, which had long had connotations of seriousness, respectability, and conventionality, had now acquired specific connotations of heterosexuality.[15] In the case of gay, other connotations of frivolousness and showiness in dress ("gay apparel") led to association with camp and effeminacy. This association no doubt helped the gradual narrowing in scope of the term towards its current dominant meaning, which was at first confined to subcultures. Gay was the preferred term since other terms, such as queer, were felt to be derogatory.[16] Homosexual is perceived as excessively clinical,[17][18][19][20] since the sexual orientation now commonly referred to as "homosexuality" was at that time a mental illness diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
In mid-20th century Britain, where male homosexuality was illegal until the Sexual Offences Act 1967, to openly identify someone as homosexual was considered very offensive and an accusation of serious criminal activity. Additionally, none of the words describing any aspect of homosexuality were considered suitable for polite society. Consequently, a number of euphemisms were used to hint at suspected homosexuality. Examples include "sporty" girls and "artistic" boys,[21] all with the stress deliberately on the otherwise completely innocent adjective.
The sixties marked the transition in the predominant meaning of the word gay from that of "carefree" to the current "homosexual". By 1963, a new sense of the word gay was known well enough to be used by Albert Ellis in his book The Intelligent Woman's Guide to Man-Hunting. Similarly, Hubert Selby, Jr. in his 1964 novel Last Exit to Brooklyn, could write "[he] took pride in being a homosexual by feeling intellectually and esthetically superior to those (especially women) who weren't gay..."[22] Later examples of the original meaning of the word being used in popular culture include the theme song to the 1960–1966 animated TV series The Flintstones, whereby viewers are assured that they will "have a gay old time." Similarly, the 1966 Herman's Hermits song "No Milk Today", which became a Top 10 hit in the UK and a Top 40 hit in the U.S. and included the lyric "No milk today, it was not always so / The company was gay, we'd turn night into day."[23] In June 1967, the headline of the review of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album in the British daily newspaper The Times stated, "The Beatles revive hopes of progress in pop music with their gay new LP".[24] Yet in the same year, The Kinks recorded "David Watts".[25] Ostensibly about schoolboy envy, the song also operated as an in-joke, as related in Jon Savage's "The Kinks: The Official Biography", because the song took its name from a homosexual promoter they'd encountered who'd had romantic designs on songwriter Ray Davies' teenage brother; and the lines "he is so gay and fancy free" attest to the ambiguity of the word's meaning at that time, with the second meaning evident only for those in the know.[26] As late as 1970, the first episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show has the demonstrably straight Mary Richards' downstairs neighbor, Phyllis, breezily declaiming that Mary is, at age 30, still "young and gay."
There is little doubt that the homosexual sense is a development of the word's traditional meaning, as described above. It has nevertheless been claimed that gay stands for "Good As You", but there is no evidence for this: it is a folk etymology backronym.
The American Psychological Association states that sexual orientation "describes the pattern of sexual attraction, behavior and identity e.g. homosexual (aka gay, lesbian), bisexual and heterosexual (aka straight)". It says, "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles."[28]
According to Rosario, Schrimshaw, Hunter, Braun (2006), "the development of a lesbian, gay, or bisexual (LGB) sexual identity is a complex and often difficult process. Unlike members of other minority groups (e.g., ethnic and racial minorities), most LGB individuals are not raised in a community of similar others from whom they learn about their identity and who reinforce and support that identity. Rather, LGB individuals are often raised in communities that are either ignorant of or openly hostile toward homosexuality."[29]
The British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell has argued that the term gay is merely a cultural expression which reflects the current status of homosexuality within a given society, and claiming that "Queer, gay, homosexual ... in the long view, they are all just temporary identities. One day, we will not need them at all."[30]
If a person engages in same-sex sexual encounters but does not self-identify as gay, terms such as 'closeted', 'discreet', or 'bi-curious' may be applied. Conversely, a person may identify as gay without engaging in homosexual sex. Possible choices include identifying as gay socially while choosing to be celibate or while anticipating a first homosexual experience. Further, a bisexual person can also identify as "gay" but others might consider gay and bisexual to be mutually exclusive. There are some who are drawn to the same-sex, and may not have sex, and also not identify as gay; these could have the term 'asexual' applied, even though an 'asexual' generally can mean no attraction, and includes heterosexual attraction that is not sufficient to engage in sex, or where the sex act is not desirable, even though titillation may occur.


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#21 KanyeEast

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:38 AM

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production wise tho it goes to Drunk..goat beat evur


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:49 AM

SteamRoller (for immaculate production gotdamn)/Analog 2/VCR
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:56 AM


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:58 AM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:02 AM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:18 AM

Jamba and IFHY are great.


Fuck are those?
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

haha noone will actually list yonkers, cause you are all of fans from '10 way before the hype started. to list something from of tape 1 is just stupid, the sound is so crappy.

I like Bastard, Nightmare, Yonkers (best combination of beats, lyrics and video), Analog.
Hopefully his best is yet to come
He has a lot of other good songs too, but those are all standouts.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

Fuck are those?


They are unreleased songs, you just had your first experience of Lurkk, a guy that spends nearly 24 hours of the day looking for OF stuff, he has no friends so he dedicates his life to stupid shit like that.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

Nightmare because the lyrics and the vibe slowly get darker as the song progresses,
Blow because the beat is nice,
VCR/Wheels because the lyrics and the beat sound perfect together,
Analog II because of the summer vibe, and because ....the second half >
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Blow, Session, Orange Juice, Let's Dance, King of Assmilk Flowers, Analog
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