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#31 leflaur

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 04:49 AM

ii swear, ii constantly come across some part of the forum that ii had no idea existed or simply forgot about. odd, you are on the right track for music theory--it may go hand in hand with your ambitions. how long have you been interested in production?
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:39 PM

i still don't really understand when people talk about the key of a song ... like ... does it mean ur looping a scale through the entire song or something ? ... can someone get more in depth and show me an example
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 06:52 PM

i still don't really understand when people talk about the key of a song ... like ... does it mean ur looping a scale through the entire song or something ? ... can someone get more in depth and show me an example


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:47 AM

i still don't really understand when people talk about the key of a song ... like ... does it mean ur looping a scale through the entire song or something ? ... can someone get more in depth and show me an example


i may be wrong but im pretty sure key is just the note the song is
like the key for a song might be Cm which im guessing is C minor
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 05:38 PM

i still don't really understand when people talk about the key of a song ... like ... does it mean ur looping a scale through the entire song or something ? ... can someone get more in depth and show me an example

Sorry, being banned tends to make you unable to respond to replies.
Key is something that is hard to explain, but easy to understand once you get it down.
It a nutshell there are two key types "Major" and "Minor".
And basically the key of something would describe the sound of the chords, like "Oh, I like how you choose a CMinor Chord Progression as opposed to an B-Flat Major.
It's kinda hard to explain, but if you're still having problems PM any questions and I'll try to help.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:24 PM

I know too much about theory. If you have any questions, now that our helpful friend Lights is gone, you can also PM me. I know the basics, but also a lot around changing key, and modes. And I'm always happy to help.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

I know too much about theory. If you have any questions, now that our helpful friend Lights is gone, you can also PM me. I know the basics, but also a lot around changing key, and modes. And I'm always happy to help.


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:32 PM

You know Imma hit you up man.

Feel free. I need something to do with my time anyways.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:50 PM

I know too much about theory. If you have any questions, now that our helpful friend Lights is gone, you can also PM me. I know the basics, but also a lot around changing key, and modes. And I'm always happy to help.


what happened to Lights?
and do you know anything about tritones?
an you explain those to me?
I'm trying to learn piano and its hard teaching yourself.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

what happened to Lights?
and do you know anything about tritones?
an you explain those to me?
I'm trying to learn piano and its hard teaching yourself.. To put it simply.

He was banned for making too many burner threads

I tried learning about Tritones sometime a year ago when I first heard Bastard, but I could never get a clear explanation for it. So I can't really help you on that.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:07 PM

He was banned for making too many burner threads

I tried learning about Tritones sometime a year ago when I first heard Bastard, but I could never get a clear explanation for it. So I can't really help you on that.


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well i guess its back to google i go. :\
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:39 PM

damnit.

well i guess its back to google i go. :\

If you have any other questions, just send me a PM or something. I know more about important theory rather than extra stuff like tritones.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:54 PM

If you have any other questions, just send me a PM or something. I know more about important theory rather than extra stuff like tritones.


well i was trying to lean like r&b piano chords and gospel chords and they said i need to learn tritones and shit.
so i mean unless you can recommend some chords i don't really have much to ask.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 09:00 PM

well i was trying to lean like r&b piano chords and gospel chords and they said i need to learn tritones and shit.
so i mean unless you can recommend some chords i don't really have much to ask.

Recommend chords? I usually just find what note of chord needs to come next in a song, and then invert it in some way or other. Or change a fifth to a seventh if I want a more jazz or dissonant sound. I have no idea what kinds of chords are used in R&B or Gospel music, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to create the sound you're looking for.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:59 AM

Chris, do you think its necessary to avoid basic chords if you want to avoid sounding unoriginal?
I just do what I think sounds good, and have no idea whether or not my stuff sounds like anything else, but sometimes it feels like what I'm doing isn't very complex compared to what other people do.

This is a good example of what I mean.
http://www.mediafire...9pqbiifwllyxzsn

Basic drums, and basic chords, depending on the progression and sound.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 01:25 PM

I like this you should post more.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

Chris, do you think its necessary to avoid basic chords if you want to avoid sounding unoriginal?
I just do what I think sounds good, and have no idea whether or not my stuff sounds like anything else, but sometimes it feels like what I'm doing isn't very complex compared to what other people do.

This is a good example of what I mean.
http://www.mediafire...9pqbiifwllyxzsn

Basic drums, and basic chords, depending on the progression and sound.

I completely understand. That was a big problem for me as well. I'd make a melody, or chord progression and go "huh, this sounds familliar". I always was terrible at making drum beats, so that's not even something I can judge or get into, but from what I heard on your track it doesn't seem to be much of a problem. I mean, yes, the drums are pretty basic, but they do work. It would be cool if you came up with some original, weird, drum beat that works for your next track though. I'd like to hear it.

The chords and overall sound didn't sound too basic. It was actually pretty cool, but if you're looking for complexity, then sure, try out some inversions and more complex chords. It's always good to try new things.

For the most of it, yes, I think it's necessary to avoid basic chords if you want to create something original soudning, but there's still soo many ways to create something that sounds original with basic chords, and you never have to stop using them completely either. Beethoven uses basic chords in a lot of his songs, as well as many other classical musicians. Of course mostly they're not basic, but still. And have you ever heard of phillip glass? His music is incredibly simple, (mostly basic with also some inversions) but it sounds so complex, and so different.

I think you should try using less basic chords to experiment and see if you prefer the sound, but also don't completely stop yourself from using them. They can be pretty effective, and a lot of times you'll notice they have the sound you're looking for to come next in your song. Good luck.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 06:33 PM

It depends on what kind of music you make tbh. If you make pop/rock/folk basic chords can sound just fine depending on what you do with them. Even the most corny chord progressions can sound great if you handle them well. It basically depends on the whole package, not just what chords you use. I love Neutral Milk Hotel for example but Jeff Mangum uses the most basic of chords, it's the storytelling and musical delivery there that counts, not the complexity of the chords.

You could also just take a different approach to scales and what not. A I-II-III-IV chord progression in E phrygian is going to sound more out there for us Western folks than let's say a I-ii-iii-IV in E major.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:46 AM

There's not much theory in this theory thread.

To the guy asking what a tritone is;

It's the root, a diminished 5th and the octave.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:29 PM

is there supposed to be videos or links where there is a large space? or is it just my computer?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:10 AM

well i was trying to lean like r&b piano chords and gospel chords and they said i need to learn tritones and shit.
so i mean unless you can recommend some chords i don't really have much to ask.


i know a lotta chords / theory if you need help feel free to PM me as well
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:32 AM

i know a lotta chords / theory if you need help feel free to PM me as well


I will definitely take you up on that.
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Im A rap/producer that wonts to be A all around musican yafeelme.I got this track that i would like to make A visual 2.I would like for you all to throw me sum ideas at me. this is the song and also tell me what i need to adjust to make my music more apealling to you all Listen on Soundcloud.com
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:16 PM

Im A rap/producer that wonts to be A all around musican yafeelme.I got this track that i would like to make A visual 2.I would like for you all to throw me sum ideas at me. this is the song and also tell me what i need to adjust to make my music more apealling to you all http://soundcloud.com/trillamichaelhuf/monte-carlo-prod-blakkk

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:25 PM

Im A rap/producer that wonts to be A all around musican yafeelme.I got this track that i would like to make A visual 2.I would like for you all to throw me sum ideas at me. this is the song and also tell me what i need to adjust to make my music more apealling to you all http://soundcloud.com/trillamichaelhuf/monte-carlo-prod-blakkk

im sorry but that how i really talk.Okay what i ment was can u guys throw some ideas at me for A video treatment.Thanks in advance.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

I think you're in the wrong thread dude :P
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Fuck, theory is so tedious to learn online. I'm about to just start taking some piano lessons.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:48 PM

I love Neutral Milk Hotel for example but Jeff Mangum uses the most basic of chords


xactly
I'm not that into NMH but yeah it is really in the timbre & phrasing
For example, C->G->Am->F played on a piano at 120bpm will make you want to put your head thru a wall and scream for Charles Mingus spirit,
But put in a couple 7ths or whatever, experiment with tempo, use interesting bu appropriate instruments, good harmonies, rhythms etc & it'll probably still smack but not nearly as much

Do not use chord progressions as a crutch
Use em as a starting point.
You will lose big time if you do tbh
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:55 PM

xactly
I'm not that into NMH but yeah it is really in the timbre & phrasing
For example, C->G->Am->F played on a piano at 120bpm will make you want to put your head thru a wall and scream for Charles Mingus spirit,
But put in a couple 7ths or whatever, experiment with tempo, use interesting bu appropriate instruments, good harmonies, rhythms etc & it'll probably still smack but not nearly as much

Do not use chord progressions as a crutch
Use em as a starting point.
You will lose big time if you do tbh


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